John Ternus 接受 Clique 專訪：Duo 設計、Siri AI「不是朋友」、接任 CEO 的驚喜

Apple CEO John Ternus 在九月發表會後接受 Canal+ 談話節目 Clique 專訪，談及 iPhone Duo 設計與工程、Siri AI、他如何被徵詢接任 CEO，以及 Vision Pro。MacRumors（Juli Clover）整理了這場涵蓋面廣的訪談；9to5Mac 則聚焦 Ternus 對 Vision Pro 的辯護。以下引言依上述媒體轉述 Clique 內容——並非訪談以外的全新 Apple 官方聲明。

這與稍早的 Tom Marieb Duo 摺痕／nano-texture 報導 讀者任務不同：此文是 Ternus 以 CEO 身分談設計邏輯、工程難題、AI 調性、接班，以及 Vision Pro 在「漫長旅程」中的位置。

Duo：像 iPad 的大畫面，不是「兩台手機黏在一起」

談到為何 Duo 展開後採接近 iPad 的形狀，Ternus 在 Clique 上說（經 MacRumors 轉述）：

I think it's something new and unique, right? But I think we didn't want to just do what we'd seen other people do, which is sort of take two phone shapes and stick them together and then you get this weird square thing. We came at it from we want to build a large screen experience that feels right to us. And obviously we've been doing that for a long time with iPad. And so we knew kind of the shape, you know, we came up with this new aspect ratio.

他說開發 Duo 要解決 「so many problems」，但同時也讓團隊有機會 「be really clever」、「come up with entirely new things」。他點名的硬體難題包括 轉軸（hinge） 與 螢幕（display），以及兩者的可靠度。

被問到最喜歡的 Duo 小彩蛋，Ternus 展示了 開合動畫：「I mean, this is really fun, you know, the animation that you get as you open it across from one side to the other. It's just sort of whimsical and fun. And it brings a smile to your face.」

Siri AI：「不是設計來當你的朋友」

Ternus 重申 Apple 對 AI 伴侶的立場：Siri AI 「not designed to be your friend」——MacRumors 指出 Craig Federighi 今年稍早已用過類似表述。他說 Apple 不想取代人際關係：「They're how we learn, they're how we grow, they're how we find joy and happiness。」（經 MacRumors）

CEO 邀約：Cook、董事會，以及「幸好我坐著」的驚喜

時任 CEO Tim Cook 與 Apple 董事會詢問 Ternus 是否願意接下這個職位。他沒有說被接觸的時間點，但形容問題來得很突然：

When Tim asked me if it was something I would consider, I would say the good news is I was sitting down, because I never in a million years would have imagined that happening.

擔任 CEO 後，他否定會有徹底轉向——包括把自己定位成單純「回歸工程本色」：

I don't think anything's really changed. Sure, I'm new in this job, but the focus on innovation, the focus on products, the focus most importantly on our customers, that has never changed. That's been here from the beginning.

I am super passionate about products. I love building things. That's why I've been here so long. That's why I love what I do. And so I'm excited to continue doing that. But I don't think of it as some radical change.

在九月發表會上說出 「one more thing」 讓他覺得「amazing」：「I've seen Steve say it, and I've seen Tim say it… And so having the opportunity for me to say it was pretty magical. Kind of goosebumps。」

Vision Pro：「電腦早期那一段漫長旅程」

在 Clique 上，主持人 Mouloud Achour 問 Vision Pro 究竟是「測試、失敗，還是通往未來『電腦』的第一步？」Ternus 的回答（9to5Mac 引述）：

Vision Pro to me is an amazing device. It’s an absolutely amazing device. But I think of it as like the early days of computers. It is the early days of a long journey. That’s how I feel about Vision Pro. What you see, if you think about the early days, people found different reasons where the computer allowed them, the Mac allowed them to do something never before possible. Like desktop publishing, and it became a big thing in that industry.

What you’re seeing with Vision Pro now is, certainly there’s early adopters who love it and they’re using it and they’re enjoying it, but you also—surgeons are starting to use it in surgery because it’s just a fundamentally better tool for them than a monitor that’s kind of sitting over here. And so it’s growing in that area. In film production people are using it for set development and things like that. So we’re going to continue to grow and find more and more compelling use cases. And I think there’s a very bright future.

MacRumors 提到完整 Clique 訪談還談到 Tim Cook、AI 競賽、環境目標、iOS 27 家長控制等——這些線在此處所用的二手整理中並未完整逐字刊出。

重點： 在發表會後的 Clique 專訪中，Ternus 為 Duo 源自 iPad 的比例辯護，點名轉軸／螢幕可靠度是核心工程戰，堅守 Siri AI 是工具而非朋友，把 CEO 邀約形容成驚喜，承諾延續而非劇烈改變，並把 Vision Pro 比作電腦早期——不是已完成的品類。上述皆為 2026 年 9 月 21 日 MacRumors 與 9to5Mac 轉述的訪談內容。

來源：MacRumors — Juli Clover（2026 年 9 月 21 日星期一 PDT 下午 4:12）；9to5Mac — Ryan Christoffel（2026 年 9 月 21 日 PT 上午 8:41），皆報導 Ternus 的 Canal+／Clique TV 專訪。